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brag about himself. fight to tend. bernie sanders still campaigning but hillary clinton is also pouring resources into upcoming primary states. what's behind the latest moves? one state throwing down the gauntlet over the obama administration's transgender bathroom directive. cruel summer. it promises to be one of the busiest flying seasons ever. the worst part could be before you even get on the plane. we begin with politics. donald trump has 100 million new reasons to keep fighting, courtesy of mega donor sheldon adelson. he has purportedly promised trump a huge cash infusion to keep his campaign rolling. trump is winning support from the fourth highest ranking republican in the house. >> we can unite around a belief
that it can't be business as usual. it can't be status quo. that's more than anything what donald trump represents. he represents he's coming here to be a disrupter. i think that's where a lot of our members agree, that it can't be business as usual. >> but the wave of gop support has president stopped democratic front-runner hillary clinton slamming trump in an ad
released just this morning. >> any closer to releasing your tax returns? >> i'm thinking about it. >> i can't do it until the audit is finished. >> the audit is no excuse. the irs made it clear it's not a bar to public release. it's totally your choice. >> it's none of your business. >> her husband, former president bill clinton had a tougher time of it at his campaign event in patterson, new jersey, getting heckled after he arrived more
than an hour late thanks to traffic problems on the tappan zee bridge. bernie sanders is on the campaign trail today slated to speak at rally in bowling green, kentucky. donald trump is responding to a 25-year-old audiotape first revealed by "the washington post." on it, a man who sounds like donald trump is claiming to represented him using the name john miller. he brags to "people" magazine about the businessman's dating life with women and his personal finances. let's bring in nbc's jacob rascon for the latest on that store richlt jacob, trump denied
it was him, saying it was not him, in fact. is this something the campaign is worried about because of the attention it's getting? >> reporter: amon, the campaign didn't respond to specific questions about the tape except to say the man on it gave a, quote, bad impersonation of mr. trump. the reporter who did the initial interview tells nbc news that a
p person pretended to be the pub lift, acknowledged it and apologized for it. this is as trump is trying to unite the party and his surrogates are saying it's time to move on. the year was 1991, donald trump facing a barrage of negative press about his divorce when supposed spokesman john miller steps in. >> i'm sort of new here. >> reporter: a candid phone interview with "people" magazine boasting about trump's personality life. >> frankly he gets called by everybody, gets called by everybody in the book. >> reporter: the reporter is sue carswell who says trump later admitted it was a joke. >> there's no doubt in my mind that he apologized to me and he made it clear he was the man on the tape. there's no doubt in my mind. >> reporter: the voice is instantly familiar. >> well, i can tell you this. >> i can tell you this.
>> you understand that. >> you understand that. >> reporter: john miller quickly became the top trending topic on twitter, tweets like show us john miller's birth certificate and has paul ryan decided to endorse john miller. trump himself denies it. >> it was not me on the phone. it was not me on the phone. it doesn't sound like me on the phone. >> reporter: his surrogates making the rounds calling the tape a distraction. >> at some point we've got to start concentrating on what's important. the issues that face our country are just monumental. >> reporter: "the washington post" uncovered the tape from a source. carswell tells cynthia mcfadden it wasn't her, speculating it might have been trump. >> if i didn't give the tape to "the washington post," who did? >> you're saying -- >> i think trump is behind letting this go. >> why? >> why does donald trump do anything he does? >> carswell didn't provide any
specific evidence that trump was the source behind the leak of the tape. and again, the campaign says it was a bad impression of him. this comes in a week where trump has received a lot of support from establishment republicans, but some including house speaker paul ryan are still trying to decide. aym ayman. >> jacob rascon in new york. turning the the democrats and the bernie sanders campaign. nbc's chris jansing is in louisville, kentucky for us. >> good morning. >> some saying bernie sanders is hurting hillary clinton by staying in the race. that's something that has really angered him in the past. has that changed? >> he's dismissive of that. he thinks he's strengthening the democratic party, they intend to register tens if not,0 hundredsf thousands of new voters. even now as i go into the crowd and say you know the chances of
him winning are very, very, very small, people get the math. they understand what's going on. he believes he can bring these new people into the party and that it's important for democrats to be talking about these base progressive issues he's been talking about frankly for his whole career. and talking about those kinds of crowds, 2200 last night in grand forks, north dakota, even though it was outdoors and it was in the 40s. we saw a rare sight, bernie sanders put a coat on as he made his argument he could still win the nomination. take a listen. >> to bore you with some arithmetic. we have about 45.5% of the pledged delegates. pledge delegates are the d delegates actually elected by the people as opposed to the superdelegates. and god knows who elects them.
our goal in the next five weeks in kentucky and oregon next tuesday and six other states, including north dakota, on june 7th is to win as many delegates as we can and to go into the democratic convention with a majority of -- with more delegates than secretary clinton. >> obviously tuesday would be critical if we stand any chance at all of doing that. the problem this presents for hillary clinton is she's fighting on two fronts, fighting against donald trump putting that new ad against him at the same time. she's coming back here to kentucky tomorrow and monday, clearly a sign she's worried about the headlines t momentum, about bernie sanders still having a chance in this race and maybe possibly since there's not great polling here, maybe her campaign senses some opportunity that she still has a chance to pull out a win here in kentucky. i guess the big long-term
question is what does bernie sanders want? he's not happy with the way he's been treated by the democratic national committee. when it comes to the convention, if he is not the nominee, the things he's pushing for like the $15 minimum wage, something hillary clinton has talked about $12 she could get on board with, some of the other expansions of health care, even though he wants health care for all, there certainly is some common ground for the democrats. but other things he has been fighting for, like a ban on fracking, a tougher wall street regulations, are going to be a lot harder. remember, of course, this is about who he gets to represent him eventually on some of those key committees that will decide the platform. right now, if you talk to bernie sanders as i have several times the last couple days, he is focused on these upcoming primaries. aym ayman? >> nbc's chris jansing live in louisville. >> windy louisville. >> that's true. joining me is national politics reporter for the hill cate martel and white house
correspondent for the daily mail.com francesca chambers. good to have you both with us. there has been a lot of pressure mounting on bernie sanders to drop out of the race. in fact, senator dianne feinstein from southern california says he's hurting hillary clinton. how long do you think bernie sanders can hang on here? >> good morning, ayman. bernie sanders has said he's going to stay in for all 50 states. what's most interesting in this, hillary clinton will get the nomination, it's hard for bernie sanders to actually have a chance. where he can come in is he wants to be a part of the platform, like you were just saying. what's really going to hurt hillary clinton is the fact that she hasn't been able to finish off bernie sanders up until this point points to her weaknesses. you can see the seams in her campaign that as we go into the general election we'll need to see democrats unified especially if we see donald trump put up a big fight. >> let me pick up on the point
unification. in one of your articles, you drew a parallel between the lack of unity between the gop and the democrats. do yu see the democratic party and at least on the democratic side of this race, are they as divided and separated as the republicans? >> perhaps not as much as the republicans, but i think democrats are making a mistake if they think it's just going to come together for them very easily were the convention. the article you're talking about referenced debby wasserman schultz, the chair of the democratic party, she was telling reporters on a press call that democrats will be unified going to the convention, their party will be unified. you have to look at how many bernie sanders supporters say they won't vote for hillary clinton ifhe is the nominee. they have their own "never hilla hillary" movement going on. hillary clinton has to do a lot of work to convince those supporters of bernie sanders that they should vote for her in the general election. >> kate, let me ask you this
about trump's meeting with paul ryan and gop officials. what did you get or what sense -- what particular specifics came out of that? what sense did you get that they may have gotten any closer to resolving some of those issues that were covered and the concerns that were expressed? >> ayman, i was at paul ryan's meeting with the press right after. he seemed generally gleeful and seemed a lot more enthusiastic about donald trump than we have seen. he would not divulge the specifics of the issues they discussed except to say 45 minutes of one meeting isn't going to settle these issues. what's interesting is the senate majority whip, john cornyn in a meeting right after paul ryan said they're going to discusses immigration going forward and try to change the tone on that. what's really interesting about that is the hispanic vote is going to be what decides the presidency. there's a lot of growing hispanic communities. look at arizona. john cornyn is looking at the senate and is worried saying,
hey, is donald trump going to hurt the senate? he's trying to unify the party. we're going to see a lot of these issues come out in the next few weeks. >> francesca, do you think we can gauge how much of this imprei' embracing of donald trump is really an issue. >> paul ryan and reince priebus want to bring the party together. they have to be unified if they want to beat hillary clinton. that's what this comes down to, they want to win the presidency, they want to retain the house, retain the senate, they want to win in november. donald trump is the guy at the top of the ticket, whether they like it or not. so i think what we saw this week is coming to grips with that, coming to terms with that and realizing that they're going to have to get behind them if they want to have a united front in the fall. >> kate, how much of this do you think that there won't be a challenge at the convention,
given the way things are starting to come into shape with the gop, with a lot of -- i guess a lot of big players in the gop rallying behind donald trump? is that going to mean there will not be a contested convention? >> ayman, you make a good point. while it can't be contested, donald trump, once he hits 1237, game over. that doesn't mean the convention won't be contentious. they're usually pretty scripted and stay to the rules. but donald trump is such a more eccentric candidate, where this could have an effect is the vote for president. delegates aren't bound to support the vice president as they are the nominee. that's an entirely separate vote. they could shoot down who donald trump chooses as the vice president. the other place that can get contentious is when it comes down to the platform. donald trump isn't strictly conservative as a lot of people at the convention will be.
when it comes to the transgender issues, that's an issue that he won't necessarily support what a lot of the conservatives are saying. i think that's an area that we could see a really contentious convention even if donald trump does come out with the nomination. >> cate martel, francesca, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. campaigning by hillary clinton and bernie sanders in the bluegrass state and the talks surrounding potential vice presidential picks. stay with us. . school, grocery shopping. my face can unlock this computer. that's crazy. macbooks are not able to do that. "hey cortana, remind me we have a play date tomorrow at noon" i need that in my world. anything that makes my life easier, i'm using. and windows is doing that.
clinton has two events scheduled tomorrow. joining me is congressman john yar mugt who will be with clinton at at least one event. good morning and thanks for joining us. >> good morning, ayman. >> let me start off with a question about the time that is spent this week. in addition to spending a considerable amount of time in your state this week, hillary clinton has also just bought about $178,000 worth of ads there. being about 142 delegates away from the number needed for the nomination, why do you think her campaign feels the need to keep pouring more money into kentucky? >> well, i think what she wants to do is to go into the convention with considerable momentum and excitement. she can do that by winning in kentucky, going on to win in new jersey and california. and that will set the tone for a very successful convention. i think that's her purpose. >> we've talked a lot about some of the states and how important they've been through out this primary process. how crucial is kentucky to the
race this november? >> you know, when i've spoken to secretary clinton and also to president clinton, they think they can make kentucky competitive. president clinton carried the state twice in '92 and '96 and is very popular here in my district as well as other parts of kentucky. i think this is not just trying to win the primary. this is setting the stage for a general election campaign where they believe because of the background here that they have a chance to turn this state blue. boy, it would be a wonderfully refreshing thing for us if they were able to do that. >> let's talk a little bit about bernie sanders. i want you to take a listen to what he said to my colleague andrea mitchell in an interview this week. >> in every state that we have won, in 19 states, we have had to take on the entire democratic establishment. we've had to take on senators and governors and mayors and
members of congress. that's what we have taken on. so please do not moan to me about hillary clinton's problems. >> is he right? has everything been set up for hillary clinton and do you give him any credit for remaining competitive throughout this race? >> i do give him credit for remaining competitive and for a lot of the excitement he's generated. i'm grateful to him for creating that excitement and bringing new people into the process. but by and large, what we have to think of as democratic officials, we think not just to the presidential election. we have a critical election this fall to hold the kentucky house of representatives with a new democratic governor trying to dismantle so many of the good things in this state. we need to have that protection. we have to make a decision as superdelegates as to which candidate at the top of the ticket will help those
down-ballot races. again, they're very, very critical to us. obviously i'm up for re-election, too. i'll think about that as well. one of the things that i think we have to consider is that we're -- when states with closed primaries -- in other words, states where only democrats can vote, hillary clinton wins those consistently. even in west virginia last week, 40% of the votes cast in the democratic primary were not democrats. and she carried the actual democrats who voted. so i think it's a little bit disingenuous to talk about just the democratic establishment. i think democratic voters, committed loyal democrats throughout the country overwhelmingly support hillary clinton. >> let's talk about the report that came out from the "huffington post" that said the hillary clinton campaign is considering senator elizabeth warren for vice president. i was curious to get your take on that and who you would like to see hillary clinton potentially pick as a vice presidential candidate. >> well, i think elizabeth
warren is going to be part of any conversation. i think in the final analysis, that's probably not a good match. the names that have popped up are fein is safe, i love shar rod brown. i'll throw out three names i would like to see considered anyway. one is tim ryan from ohio, represents the youngstown area, a young guy, smart as can be, very articulate, has very strong ties to labor unions, a lot of the same constituency that sherrod brown has. and a brilliant guy and somebody passionate about a lot of the issues like gun violence that i think would resonate in this country. finally, a real dark horse, that's tom wolf from pennsylvania, only in office for two years. he comes out of a business background, but somebody who could help carry a pivotal state and somebody who i think has the
same kind of touch with average working americans that joe biden has. i'd try to get those in the mix. >> congressman, thank you for joining us this saturday morning. appreciate your insights. >> my pleasure, ayman. still ahead, voting in november, what the number of registered voters is revealing in a number of potential decisive states. (vo) on the trane test range, you learn what makes our heating and cooling systems so reliable.
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welcome back. i'm ayman mohyeldin at msnbc headquarters in new york. donald trump's stand on muslims has become a global concern. london's new mayor, kahn, a muslim himself got a chance to speak with the newly elected mayor and kelly cobiella joins us. a very interesting discussion with the mayor. what did he to tell you about it? >> brief but insightful. he talked about everything from family trips to disney land to
his election over the past couple months. but inevitably the topic of conversation came back to election in the united states and donald trump and those calls for a temporary ban of muslims coming to the united states. the mayor is the son of a bus driver and seamstress, both immigrants from pakistan. he w is a muslim, elected by a landslide. his said his opponents took a page streit out of donald trump's playbook and he said it didn't work here. he told me he'd like to meet donald trump despite all that and said he would welcome him to london. >> i didn't decide to stand for office to be donald trump's nightmare. the point i'd make to donald trump and those advising him is i think your views on islam are ignorant. there is a case that there are a small number of criminals, terrorists who do really bad things and really horrible
things and seek to justify their acts of terror in the name of islam. but the vast, vast, vast majority of muslims, not just in london but around the world are peaceful, law abiding. they love being muslim. many of us love being western. many of us love americans. >> he also called this a risky strategy and said the risk is you end up alienating mainstream muslims who believe that others believe you can't be western and muslim at the same time. ayman, mayor khan has made no secret of his support for hillary clinton. he reiterated that to me. he said he's a feminist and told me the first female president of the united states would set a good example for his two daughters. a very interesting conversation, ayman. i'm sure we'll hear more from him in the coming months. >> i know, kelly, the united kingdom, particularly london has been concerned about the issue
of radicalization that has plagued europe in some major ci cities. has the mayor discussed how he plans to address the issue of radicalization in london? >> he didn't give the specifics in terms of the plan. you're fairly well read on this, there are several different avenues that politicians have tried to take in terms of fighting radicalization in london. some of them involve the government services. some involve outreach programs. what mayor khan said is we need to set good examples, have positive role models for kids who are being approached by sympathizers of isis so they can see someone who is mainstream, who is in government, who has power, who is able to make changes for people who maybe don't have the advantages of others so that they see you don't need to go the path of
radicalization, so they're not tempted to buy into the kinds of ideas that recruiters are trying to sell them. that's really his idea. he also said he's very open and willing to work with u.s. politicians in fighting this, but no direct plan as yet, ayman. >> kelly cobiella, live in london, appreciated that. thanks, kelly. bernie sanders is in kentucky amid mounting pressure to drop out of the race. this comes despite new polls out of florida, ohio and pennsylvania showing him beating trump in a general election match-up. one of the arguments by democrats is that trump will try to capitalize on comments sanders has made against hillary clinton. joining me now is former ohio state senator nina turner, she is a bernie sanders supporters. thank you very much, nina, for joining us this morning. >> thanks, ayman. >> what do you make of the concerns that trump will try to appeal to some of the same independent and economically
frustrated voters that bernie sanders has been able to make inroads with over the primary season? >> this is a disruption election. we're seeing it on both the left and the right, that people are tired of business as usual. what we see with senator sanders compared to mr. trump is that senator sanders is preaching a gospel of hope, talking about p uplift, whether the $15 minimum wage, paid family and medical leave, whether it's investing in our young people with universal college paid tuition and universal health care. there's a different message coming from both camps. we should not dill lewd ourselves on the left tore right, people are upset and they want to see disruption. when i say disruption, it doesn't have to be in the form of violence. but people are tired of business as usual, tired of the status quo. >> senator sanders told andrea mitchell earlier this week not
to moan about clinton's problems. he feels the deck has been stacked against him by the democratic party at all levels throughout this campaign season. what makes the sanders campaign so certain that superdelegates will come on board if they haven't done so at this point in the race? >> well, unfortunately superdelegates made their decision even before senator sanders got into the race or governor o'malley for that matter early on. this is about whether -- who is the strongest candidate to go head-to-head with the presumptive republican nominee, which is mr. trump. it has been senator sanders consistently. that has not changed. you talked a little bit about the battleground states. ohio is my state, for example, where mr. trump beats the secretary by large margins. if you reverse that, senator sanders beats mr. trump. so this is not only about the presidency, this is about the state legislatures, this is about governor's mansions, about secretaries of state. this is about making sure the democrats win up and down the
ticket. because one great president cannot change this thing alone. it takes teamwork to make that dream work. senator bernie sanders has the energy, has the momentum. we look at millennials, we look at independents, he has that group of people. he will bring that excitement that will carry beyond the presidential office. >> let's talk a little bit about concerns that bernie sanders might cost the democrats the election if he follows through with his refusal to get behind hillary clinton if he loses the nomination. given the fact he's built such a huge following, huge support base, if he doesn't support her and his voters don't do that, is that going to cost the democratic party the election? >> the senator has said that he will make it his business that, if he is not the nominee, to defeat mr. trump. right now it is unfair to ask senator sanders or any of his supporters to talk about secretary clinton being the nominee when we're working very hard up until the last voter to make sure senator bernie sanders
is that nominee. i have no doubt those progressive principles he's standing for, that he's fighting for, will be front and center. senator sanders has never been a ga along to get along of fish. he's fighting the grain, upsetting the apple cart in a very positive way. he's saying to americans that you will have in him a champion that will say boldly that the working poor, middle class in this country deserve better than what they have been getting and policymakers need to stand up to them for a change. we're going to continue to fight for senator sanders to win that nomination and we'll see what happens on the other end? >> does he have it in him for a floor fight in the convention, if states like california and new jersey don't go his way? >> that remains to be seen. senator sanders has continuously said he's in this to win this. that's his focus. we fully expect to be very competitive in california. the goal is to win california
and go into the democratic convention with the most pledge delegates. if he and the secretary are very close, we know the superdelegates will make the final decision, and we are going to fight for his right to be -- fight for him to be that nominee. he's not giving up. he's not giving up at all. he has said the climb is steep. we know that. we know the path is narrow, but there is a path, and senator sanders is no stranger to working hard and to climbing up a steep mountain. former ohio state senator nina turner, thank you very much for your time this morning. >> thanks, ayman. they keep growing and growing with no end in sight. why are airport security lines becoming such a nightmare across the country? we'll explore that next. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. that's why we make more e-commerceeliveries
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let's see how long this thing is. >> the cell phone video from midway airport says it all. a security line stretching for hours. >> guess what? it's just getting started. >> reporter: we'll move midway aside as similar scenes play out across the country. adding insult to injury, this. 3,000 bags at phoenix missed their flights because of a tsa glitch involving explosive screeners, confirmation that some tsa skufrt officers have been assigned to security for the presidential candidates. the homeland security secretary promised change. >> we will not compromise the security of aviation or the american people. >> reporter: the new action plan includes reducing the size and number of carry-ons, using airline employees to handle some tsa jobs like moving bins and authorizing more over time. many are posting their frustrations and photo on twitter.
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it may come as no surprise to you that bernie sanders. in fact, a new gallup poll bears that out. 55% hold a favorable opinion of the vermont senator. 22% hold similar opinions of dovnldz trump. >> the thing i'm going to do is make sure the middle class gets good taxes -- tax breaks. for the wealthy, quite frankly, i think it's going to go up. you know what, it should go up. >> donald trump has backtracked somewhat from that comment on taxes, it's not likely to help his standing among millionaire, a new survey taken shows hillary clinton as the top among those surveyed. 31% favor trump. the survey is skewed more republicans than national polls.
the top issue, foreign policy, political gridlock and taxes. former vice president dan quayle and former house speaker john boehner are the latest to throw their support behind donald trump. it comes after the highly anticipated meeting with paul ryan and rnc chair reince priebus. and at the time of mounting pressure on speaker to endorse the presumptive nominee, here's what speaker paul ryan told reporters following that meeting. >> i do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified. to bridge the gaps and differences. so from here, we're going deep entire the policy areas to see where that common ground is and how we can make sure that we're operating off the same core principles. yes, the first meeting, i was very encouraged with this meeting. but this was a process, it takes a little time. you don't put it together in 45 minutes. it's very important that we don't fake unifying. that we tonight pretend
unification, that we euna fieshgs so that we're full strength in the fall. >> joins me now is barry quinn, he's a prominent fund-raiser who supported jeb bush for president but is undecided about supporting donald trump for president. thank you for joining us. let me get your take on what you gleaned from the house speaker's comments on what it looks like from that press conference we just played sound bites from. >> well, i really don't think donald trump's problems are whether or not the speaker is going to be enthusiastically supporting him. it certainly helps and i think the biggest mountain he has to climb and he has to climb it very vast is that hillary clinton is going to have $1 billion to $2 billion in her campaign. he's got the organization that she's built over years to enable her to do that. he's run an unconventional
campaign. he didn't go out and raise money. typically, by this time, a presidential candidate has a fairly big and structured network on his finance team. and donald trump's going to have to do that very, very quickly. the good news for him is, i think people will be receptive. i think if he or his campaign makes the call to the prospects and the suspects who typically would help build the organization i think they'll be receptive. i think they'll be wanting to help. whether help because of his positive ideas or because they feel like hillary clinton is corrupt and needs to be stopped but one way or the other, i think these people can be motivated very quickly. the problem really is, a contest like this is like a war. you're going to have to have an army. it's hard to build an army over a few weeks particularly when your opponent has been building it over many years between march of 2014 and 2015 clinton was
paid $92 million by 19 institutions to give a speech. that's an organization that provides a foundation for her to build a finance network. donald trump doesn't have that. the good news is, i think he can do it. the bad news is time, he has to do it incredibly quickly. >> despite also meeting with congressional leaders on thursday, he met with the senate leadership as well as the house leadership. donald trump says party unity isn't necessary for him to win. do you agree with that? how crucial is it for him to get congressional support, especially from party leaders? >> right now if you look at the european odds on the presidential election she's about a 2 to 1 favorite over him. i believe if he had the network in place to raise $1.5 billion to $2 billion towards the campaign i think it would be dead even. i think his problem is not important paul ryan enthusiastically supports him and how quickly he supports him.
the main mountain he has to climb is raising the money. i don't think he can just use twitter or count on friendly press questions as he did in the primary to win this election. going to have to be done somewhat in the ready toal orthodox way. he's going to have to have a financial team. >> trump and rnc are set to kick off a massive fundraising plan to raise $1 billion. oil baron t. boon pickens is among those. and is that the kind of boost he's going to need and he's going to need more of it? and is that just a drop in the bucket, do you think? how big of a boost is it? >> it's certainly helpful, but it's really a drop in the bucket when you're talking about $1.5 billion. many of the hard dollars is $2700 a person. $5400 a couple. this requires hard work and a
state chairman. a state like california can raise a lot of money but you've got to have eight or ten co-chairmen in that state to make it happen. so, again, i think he's starting well, he's got a good quick start with a couple of people. but we're talking about building an entire national network. and it has to be done very, very fast. >> so, let me ask you very quickly before we run out of time, even if you don't end up endorsing trump, do you think you'll help fund raise for him or plan out sitting out this election altogether? >> oh, no, i don't think i'll sit it out. i've been talking to people who have been with romney campaigns or bush campaigns, they'll step up and help. they want to be asked. these people typically are in the arena, they like being in the playing field. >> mr. barry wynn, appreciate your insights. >> thank you. that wraps up this hour of
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